1517 Contributor and pastor, Bradley Gray, joins Kelsi to talk about his incredible book, ⁠Finding God in the Darkness: Hopeful Reflections from the Pit of Depression, Despair, and Disappointment⁠, and specifically, how he sees God responding to suffering throughout Scripture.

This week’s episode is a conversation between author John Bryant and Kelsi about John’s new book (out in September), A Quiet Mind to Suffer With: Mental Illness, Trauma, and the Death of Christ.

Writer Jane Grizzle talks on what the body’s limitations can teach us about God’s work for us.