1517 Contributor and pastor, Bradley Gray, joins Kelsi to talk about his incredible book, ⁠Finding God in the Darkness: Hopeful Reflections from the Pit of Depression, Despair, and Disappointment⁠, and specifically, how he sees God responding to suffering throughout Scripture.

We've found Katie Koplin, in the midst of moving into an old church, and working on her training to become a Christian counselor.

Steve Lownes returned to the studio to help Craig and Troy work out their relationship, but instead we end up talking more about the intersection of theology and therapy.

Therapist Steve Lownes joins Craig and Troy for a discussion on theology and therapy. How are they the same, and how are they different?

We finish up our conversation with Heidi Goehmann on the relationship between mental health and theology.